I am not casting 200 gr out of a 6 cavity lee mold, not sizing them, ahead of 6 grs of unique. 200 grain lead flat nose, 10 grains Blue Dot. Dunno nothin about 44 mag, but ramshot brags about their Enforcer powder for magnum hot loads. with a flush seated 148HBWC. Max. A forum community dedicated to Ruger firearm owners and enthusiasts. I also have a millet on a Super Redhawk 44 MAG and one on my Super Redhawk 454 Casull. I also use it for 12 gauge Skeet and Trap loads. I … Unique under a 250 LSWC and you should be satisfied (if not, go to a .454 Mag. However, like most pistol cartridges, the .44 Magnum “wakes up” out of a carbine length rifle barrel. IE: .44 Spl performance. Accurate now has reintroduced XMP-5744, a slow burning, bulky powder and is good in magnum pistol loads. My gun club buys powder wholesale add 5% and sells it to us.. they had Red Dot 8lb kegs for $105.00 out the door, so I got 2 kegs. 8.0g ES was 24fps. If you are a TFL member and can access TFL, please do not use this link; instead, use the forums (like Questions, Suggestions, and Tech Support) or PM an appropriate mod or admin. 12 gauge. As clean-burning as PB is in a shotshell, it is borderline filthy and smoky in a handgun round unless you load it heavy. Been waiting to finish up the remaining blue dot in .357. The writer said his blue dot recipe is the cleanest load he has and it is great for deer hunting. 44 Rem. I use Unique with both the 240 SWC's and with the 180 grain jacketed bullets. I stopped at 8.0g as it got me where I wanted to be with this powder. Red Dot powder has been a good choice for low-velocity handgun loads for decades. YMMV of course, but that was my experience. I bought a new SBH in stainless that HAS to have .430 throats. The 44 Magnum is my most favorite reloadable cartridge. 44 Russian (Cowboy Action) 44 S&W Special (Cowboy Action) 44 … Red Dot: Select A Caliber or Gauge Below To View Recipes. The .430 bullets pass through its throats easier than they do through the custom 44 Special that I have that was "made to use .430 bullets." I have found a hack to dispense Red Dot & Unique very consistently. Anyone care to recommend a load of Red Dot for 1000 fps 200 grain lead RNFP. If you have a firearm related question, please register and post it on the forums. ... **Please read the request of the OP - all he has is excess red dot and green dot he wants to get rid of. You will get far superior load results using Power Pistol or at least Unique for the 38 loads and 2400 for your magnum loads. bullet with the 8gr of Unique. Typically with fast burning powders like Red Dot, light bullets tend to be pushed out of the case before the powder gets good ignition. Red-dot sights offer no magnification but superimpose a red, lighted dot over your intended target. Besides, they only show loads using their own powders (Winchester and Alliant), which isn't bad if it's free. I really like the idea of using published data, and I really like Hodgdon for providing it free! I liked 8.0g Red Dot when I was testing it under a 240g SWC. This powder was made to order for the .44 Magnum and may even be a little better than H110; time will tell as it seems to offer a little more muzzle velocity with a little less pressure. I've used a lot of Bullseye, W231, Red Dot, Trail Boss, and Unique in the light loads. http://www.alliantpowder.com/reloaders/Index.htm, Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 901, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Go to the Alliant site and study the different powders to see what they are making that is specially designed for your particular load. I've also gone as low as 4 gr for powder puff loads, it's been a very forgiving powder IME. Marlin 1894, Henry Big Boy, etc. So I finally snuck out to the range to test out some lighter powder puff 44 mag loads that I plan to use for indoor/winter shooting since we can't shoot jacketed or magnum rounds indoors. I shoot 15 rounds as the sample number per load. I've reloaded everything from 123 gr. Green Dot is a bit slower than Bullseye or Red Dot. I have an Ultra-dot on my S&W 500MAG. 45 Colt. Yep, there may be "better", more suitable powders for big bores, but as long as one stays with book loads from their manuals, they're OK. Red Dot is a great powder for cast bullet target loads. The .44 Magnum is a hand cannon that’s also a literal blast to shoot. This email link is to reach site administrators for assistance, if you cannot access TFL via other means. I can't claim its an ideal load at all, but it was notably lighter than Magtech 240 gr. It is listed on the Hodgdon site, and is very soft and accurate. 22 grains of Accurate XMP 5744 with a 240gr swc is an accurate and very comfortable load to shoot. The easy way to determine old from new is when pressures are stated in CUP, it is old crusher method data. I will ask him if he has any 44 mag recipes. For a long time I played with "fast" powders, lots of Bullseye and W231, but no Red Dot in magnum loads. A red dot sight might be fine on a pistol caliber carbine, such as a .327 Mag., .357 Mag., or .44 Mag. I use blue dot to reload magnum shotshells. 7.5g was fine too. they are accurate, and I have no problems with them. Lyman 50th has a min of 13.4gr and a max of 14.9gr of Blue Dot for what they call a 240gr "Jacketed HC" bullet in 44 Magnum, and a min of 14.4gr and a max of 16.0gr of Blue Dot for a 240gr "Jacketed HP" bullet in the same caliber. I know he has a 357 mag. This is fast enough for paper targets and does a fine job on bowling pins. Should be a dandy. Red Dot is a double-based powder of about 20 percent nitroglycerine content. Powder Bul Weight C.O.L. Now that I got my bottle of Red Dot, I'll switch to that for my 200 gr light loads. Super accurate out of my 4 5/8" Super Blackhawk. I won't list it here because it violates one of the rules of safe reloading; it is a tiny charge in a large case. I use full length 44 Mag cases, since I don't like the ring that gets left in the cylinders from the shorter 44 Special shells. as a full-charge load with a 160-gr. In the .357, I was going for about 900 or so FPS. Would like to know if any one has had experience working up Red Dot … They chronographed out last summer at about 900 fps. This email contact address is not an "Ask the Firearms Expert" service. I've tested it in .32H&R Mag, .357, .44 Special, .44Mag and .45 Colt. Canister Sizes: View All Red Dot ® Recipes. I found that 6.5 of red dot gave the same accuracy with a bit less powder. Cleans up with #9 soaked patches. Almost 1300 fps for the 44 mag 240 gr swc. For a long time I played with "fast" powders, lots of Bullseye and W231, but no Red Dot in magnum loads. lead bulet. During the powder shortages, we all grasped at straws for fear we would run out of our favorites. razadp, Red Dot powder isn't a very good application for light target loads with bullets that are "light for caliber". Get a copy of their booklet and check this powder out. Improved Red Dot is cleaner burning. He likely has a 44 mag. That's not a "moderate" load in a magnum revolver, that's a "modest" load. I've loaded my .44s from 120 gr. A military-surplus powder produced by Hercules during the war for the .30 Carbine called H240 was a bit quicker burning than 2400, but it delivered higher velocities and burned cleaner. I was taught to respect my elders .... problem is, I'm having a hard time finding them.​. The Lispy's .44 special is scary accurate with 7.0 of Unique but if I can get equal accuracy with a bit less red dot it would simplify things. I have been using trail boss at 4.9g, but it has resulted in inconsistent rounds. .... Newbi to Ruger, but have been reloading for a 44mag S&W for several years. Powder charges used in the .44 Special case seldom require magnum primers, although they are frequently recommended with ball or spherical powders. This is a max load,use caution. As long as you keep it on the light end of the magnum loads, you'll be ok. With Red Dot as with Bullseye, be very careful not to double charge a case. In .38 Special I load 4 grs. I don't see why it wouldn't work. A military-surplus powder produced by Hercules during the war for the .30 Carbine called H240 was a bit quicker burning than 2400, but it delivered higher velocities and burned cleaner. A light amount of Red Dot and 200-grain bullets make mild-recoiling loads for a .44 Magnum revolver. I use Red Dot for lots of stuff, lead bullet loads for 9mm, .38sp, .32ACP. I don't know what the difference is between the two bullets. Low recoil and bark. I shoot many rounds in the course of a year and have found my medium loads to be just fine using the powders mentioned. JavaScript is disabled. Bullets in the .45 ACP , 6 gr. You tap the powder measure base with the same force with each throw. Looking for a lower limit load data for red dot in 44 special. 8gr. 8.8g Red Dot under 240g SWC (around 34K psi). Can't find a lot on this. I use AA#7, BE-86, and A2400 when not loading full tilt. Speer #14 has a Short Barrel section for the 44 Mag, 4" bbl., 200gr JHP, using (8) different fast powders with Unique being the slowest, if that's the way you want to go. That means the throats are right at .429" .... too tight for lead bullets. When the .44 Mag was introduced in 1955, Hercules 2400 and IMR 4227 soon became the most popular powders for .44 Magnum hand-loads. I load 5 gr. mikd & rclark .... You have stated what I found to be sound advice. Okay for light loads in .38. Yesterday I shot a dozen of my own .44 Mag Light loads. The Best Red Dot Sight for .44 Magnum Revolvers Conclusion. Anybody got loads for 44 mag -Red Dot Powder-250 Cast? You could double or triple charge with this load and not notice. balls, single loaded over a bit of W231 to 300 gr. I've not tried Green Dot in any of my handguns but other shotgun powders work well. of Red Dot and standard primers. Developed as a big-bore revolver cartridge in the 1950s, the .44 Magnum quickly grew to widespread adoption. 2400 and 296/H110 are of course the classic choices. Its kernels are round and flat and contain some flakes dyed red to identify the powder. 38 Special. Looking for a lower limit load data for red dot in 44 special. Does anyone have one they could post? Find out why. I use 2400 mostly, myself, and AA#9 is a modern powder that works really well. A red dot sight might be fine on a pistol caliber carbine, such as a .327 Mag., .357 Mag., or .44 Mag. It can be used like Titigroup, Red Dot and Unique for target loads but seems to have a more versatile upper end. I've used fast powders in my Magnums and just stayed with the recommended data from my reloading manuals. The good news is ... chamber pressures run quite a bit higher than a 45 Colt so you can use harder bullets. Light loads get Trailboss, because I can easily see the charge, and there is not much chance of position sensitivity. From the deer woods to the cowboy action range, to the silver screen, the .44 Magnum is as American as a cartridge can be. Cowboy slug or 3 grs. Some of my "funnest" and most accurate loads were 44 Special loads right out of the manual in my Magnum brass. Not a bad powder at all to use with light/medium loads. It may be the best of all. Yesterday I shot a dozen of my own .44 Mag Light loads. I see nothing wrong with using it. Light loads maybe, but medium, not so much. I'm new here, little longer on the "other" ruger board. Accuracy was about the same, so if velocity is paramount use H-110 and magnum primers. Also, Universal does a great job in 45 acp, 38 spec., 9mm. There are times I use either Red or Green Dot, as they are a bit faster and may work better in some small rounds. Accuracy was good at 25 yds., sub 2" groups from a rest. Choosing a red dot for it is tricky, so make sure you look at models that can take the recoil and power of a .44 Magnum. Speer - 200 gr magnum hollow point - 6.5-7.5 grains powder That's all it lists for 200gr bullets, unfortunately. I found some in a hurry. While it worked fine in .32H&R Mag, I didn't like how it metered in my powder measure, so moved on to 'finer' grained powders that meter much better in small quantities like True Blue, AA#2, AA#5, etc. View the SDS from the gallery, I have 4 of the beasts, 3 vaqueros and one om sbh. 16,558 Posts #12 • Dec 18, 2008. razadp, Red Dot powder isn't a very good application for light target loads with bullets that are "light for caliber". or .460). Hodgdon's Universal, HP6, HP7 and HP38 are good powders for this cartridge. Lately I've been using Titewad powder as it is fluffier and dispenses more consistently than Alliant flake powders. The new pressure data is stated in psi. I do like Single Actions (without scopes!) GONRA recognizes 296 Ball Powder / Magnum Large Pistol primers is "the OFFICIAL Way To Go" with .44 mag, .44 Auto Mag, .45 Win Mag, etc. I am happy it is working for you, but your powder choice is too fast for conventional wisdom. If you are happy, that's great, but no validation here. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I got a jug of that during the 2009 component shortage for .357 loading (couldn't find blue dot anywhere), but haven't cracked the seal yet. Relatively hard Lyman No. Alliant Powder Reload Recipes ← Back. The 44 Magnum is my most favorite reloadable cartridge. But started using Trail Boss in .45 and really like it, so will be loading my .45 'normal' loads with it for the forseeable future. If you still feel you are qualified to post in those subforums, please contact "Shane Tuttle" (the mod for that portion of TFL) via Private Message for assistance. .44 Magnum Scope vs Red Dot Sight. While this powder is supposed to be ideal for 9mm, .45 ACP and .38 Special, I was in the process of developing a .44 Special load using Oregon Trail’s Lasercast 240-grainers for my Ruger GP100, with the Smith & Wesson 629 in there so I could compare speed from a … 7.0 gr. for that cartridge. A neighbor of mine will buy enough to load a few boxes of ammo. Clays is my favorite powder for almost every handgun round from .38 Special to .44 magnum and .45ACP but PB and Titegroup work, too. 231 meters better than Unique and gives much more consistent loads if you use a powder measure. The powder drops straight into the cavity and is sheared by the rotation. Note that the 7.0g load ES was 45fps, but with the 7.5g load the ES dropped to 23fps. I have been through a few pounds of unique 7 grains at a time behind a 240-250 swc. I find by doing so I can keep the charges at the exact charge within 0.1 grain by doing so. I have been using these bullets with 6 gr. My .38 powder is Bullseye, slower than Red Dot, but still really fast and dense. Magnum. 296 will generally give you higher velocities, while 2400 is a bit more forgiving about downloading. mouse phart loads basically. That is one of the very fastest burning powders and will produce a pressure peak and sharp recoil if pushed too hard. First, the factory does a good job of optimizing the guns for jacketed bullets. 9 for jacketed in the 240-250 range. If I were reloading for my magnums using H110 and I went over the manuals' recommendations, I'll be in trouble just as if I were loading Red Dot and went over manual recommendations... K.I.S.S. At least with Trailboss I remove the baffle in my Hornady and get better results, no clogging, no empty cases at the seating station. That ain't the case any more. Tightgroup also works well and is pretty consistent in the large magnum case. You could precisely target more deer with the aid of a GP 100 that comes with a ProPoint. Hunting Revolvers: Are Red-Dot Sights the Answer? I have found a hack to dispense Red Dot & Unique very consistently. 38 Special +P. For several years I used the M624 in IPSC-type matches, and my ammo was all powered by Red Dot. Many of Alliant's loads are way too hot. Lots of rounds fired and no problems. You tap the powder measure base with the same force with each throw. And Lyman and Hornady don't have anything listed at all for 44 Special using Herco powder. Google is your friend. I have been using trail boss at 4.9g, but it has resulted in inconsistent rounds. Yes, Green Dot does work well too. Last year when I started reloading, powder was hard to obtain. Universal has been very useful. From a 4" Redhawk it gave me 920 fps. Copyright Complaints: Please direct DMCA Takedown Notices to the registered agent: Handloading, Reloading, and Bullet Casting, You tap the powder measure base with the same force with each throw. The Blue Dot is good for .38sp jacketed +P, .357 Magnum, and .44 … Do you own research. 2 lead alloy was used to cast wadcutter bullets in an NEI 150-358-WC mould for .38 Special and .357 Magnum loads. Typically, the red dot sight is quite faster to utilize as compared to a .44 Magnum scope. NC Ruger, With your 180 gr JHPs, try 8 gr of Unique for about 1000 fps. I have been loading target loads for my .44 Magnum using cast bullets. Load 10.0 gr. Shooting lead bullets in a 44 Mag is quite a challenge. hard cast out of a Lyman mold. This is a personal favorite of author Max Prasac for hunting revolver and target-shooting applications. A database of .44 Remington Magnum handloads. (I say a lot, I haven't finished my first 8 pounder yet) It's a good powder. I like the sound of that 180gr. When you hit 1200fps your starting into Magnum territory. You, but no validation here loads maybe, but have been these! 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